From “Beat the Bank: The Canadian Guide to Simply Successful Investing”
In early 2013 I was at my desk in the trading room on Scotiabank’s
sixty-eighth floor in downtown Toronto when I received a call from
my sister Mary, regarding her investments. Approaching retirement
and living in New Brunswick, Mary and her husband have university
degrees, devoted their careers to the health care profession, raised
two girls, and sacrificed to save a modest amount to supplement their
pension income. The call went something like this:
Mary: “We haven’t saved a huge amount, but every dollar of it will
count when we retire. We don’t understand why our Scotiabank
mutual fund has gained so little over the past twenty years when
we constantly hear about how well the market is performing.
Can you have a look?”
Larry: “Sure. Let me check it out.”
(With a few clicks I found the ‘Fund Facts’ description of Mary’s
Scotiabank mutual fund.)
Larry: “Mary, are you aware that Scotiabank charges fees amounting
to 2.3 percent a year?”
Mary: “Okay, but 2.3 percent of our gains doesn’t sound like very
much.”
Larry: “No. Not 2.3 percent of your gains. Scotiabank charges
2.3 percent of your total investment. Every year.”
Mary: “You mean they charge fees whether the fund goes up or
down?”
Larry: “Unfortunately, yes. That’s the way mutual funds work. And
at 2.3 percent annually for twenty years, fees have eaten up
30 or 40 percent of your money!”
Mary was shocked and upset. She felt betrayed. Mary made
the mistake of unconditionally trusting her bank to treat her
fairly. Instead, many thousands of dollars of her precious savings
were lost.”
I was embarrassed. I felt ashamed of my employer and of the
investment business overall. (Not to pick on Scotiabank in particular;
Mary would likely have experienced the same result dealing
with any big bank or traditional mutual fund provider.)
Hey, most bankers are good people but they sell mostly bad investment products to millions of Canadians just like Mary. There is a better way!
That’s why I wrote “Beat the Bank”.
(Btw I am not sure why my parents chose rhyming names for me and my sister. But their names are Aubrey and Audrey……go figure!)
To learn more, read “Beat the Bank: The Canadian Guide to Simply Successful Investing”.
I just ordered your book Larry and can’t wait to read it.
thank you for every thing you do.
Joe
Thanks very much Joe! Please let me know what you think of the book!
Larry
This post wow! I just got your book from Amazon, I certainly need to read it.
Thanks Carolina. I hope you find the book valuable. Please let me know what you think!!
Larry
Great post Larry. Alarming but great
Thanks Dave. Yes, it’s my sister’s fault. She started me on this whole book thing!
Larry
I went with my girlfriend to TD bank to open an account for her TFSA. I wanted her to invest in low fee index funds.
Funny enough… The ban didn’t have any low fee index funds in the catalog of funds they offered her. When I asked the teller about index funds, the teller said that she couldn’t help us, that we have to make those transactions ourselves through their online broker services.
Canadians don’t get any help from their banks when it comes to investing, they are herded into high expense investments. As far as I know, they would never suggest a low-cost Index fund.
The only solution is to have more information, like the one published in your book, to better guide Canadians.
Thanks Alain. That is what the book is for…..to teach Canadians investment basics and give them the confidence to make better choices and keep more of their money!
Larry
First, of all, I don’t work for a bank, and never haved. There’s been a lot of criticism about fees charged for investing in mutual funds. But, let’s be fair about this. Mutual fund companies need to make their money somehow. Just like other companies they have overhead costs and everything else that goes into running a business. And, let’s not forget why people buy mutual funds. They don’t know anything about investments, they don’t have the money to buy stocks and bonds separately, they don’t have the time for all the research that’s required, etc etc. Perhaps, fees are too high…but that is a separate issue.
In my view, mutual funds stripping out 50% of lifetime investment returns is not fair. I am trying to show there is a smarter way to invest and encouraging Canadians to take some time to learn the basics.
Will an audible version of this book be coming out?
Hi John. The book is selling well in print and ebook format. I will have to wait and see if there is sufficient demand to warrant the cost of producing an audio book.
I just finished your book and found it very helpful. However, I have one question:
When Canadians invest in Canadian companies they are eligible for a dividend tax credit, not so when investing in American or foreign companies. Therefore, do American and foreign stocks not have to produce greater dividends (higher percentage) than their Canadian counterparts in order to deliver the same net dividend percentage to Canadian investors? My portfolio reflects a home country bias for that reason. Am I wrong?
Great book!
I just finished your book and found it very helpful. However, I have one question:
When Canadians invest in Canadian companies they are eligible for a dividend tax credit, not so when investing in American or foreign companies. Therefore, do American and foreign stocks not have to produce greater dividends (higher percentage) than their Canadian counterparts in order to deliver the same net dividend percentage to Canadian investors? My portfolio reflects a home country bias for that reason. Am I wrong?
Thanks for your question Jim. You are right. Generally, within regular taxable accounts (outside RRSP, TFSA, etc.) dividends on Canadian stocks are taxed less than dividends received on foreign stocks. That is a factor favouring Canadian stocks. But dividend taxation is just one consideration among many. In short, the total after tax return of an investment is what counts most. American stocks have significantly outperformed Canadian stocks in recent years both before and after tax. In my view, some home country bias makes sense, but in order to benefit from growth in key sectors of the broader global economy, such as technology, pharmaceuticals, etc., one must invest beyond our borders.
Hope that helps.
Larry
Good morning! Have just started to read your book and am stunned at how much the fees can be with the traditional way of investing. As someone in a similar position as your sister was can you share what you advised her to do? I am close to retiring, have a modest amount in both RRSP and TFSA mutual funds.
Thanks for your question Nora. Robo-advisors weren’t around when I had that conversation with my sister. I probably would have suggested that or simple “Assemble-it-yourself index fund investing as described later in the book. If you need more tailored retirement planning advice you may want to check out one of the “fee for service” advisors noted on my Resources page. Hope that helps and please let me know what you think of the book once you have finished. Thanks! Larry